Why Helicopter Airlines Failed
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Wow man really? I'm out.
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To say tiltrotor aircraft will be a thing is just wrong. The future belongs to compound helicopters.
Wow wait three months and you suddenly don’t care anymore? You only support stuff when you get likes?
subtitles yes thank you
Hong Kong and Macau helicopter line: (I know the their is a hydrofoil boat to get between them but that is not the point)
My maternal grandfather, Clarence Belinn, started Los Angeles Airways. It had quite a checkered history (several rotor failure tragedies were involved.) Great video as usual.
I’m surprised there was no mention of helicopter charter companies that hop islands in Hawaii, Air Methods Corporation in particular.
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Basically economies of scale...
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am i the only one who thought this was a half as interesting video
I can't get fresh milk anymore because someone stole Macau! Lmao 🤣😂 Sorry, I couldn't help myself....
This reminds me a bit of the downfall of large flying boats and amphibious airplanes. For a while the cost of setting up a new airport was expensive - so being able to use any lake or sea as your runway largely cut down on initial investment (though the added maintenance of such aircraft would add up later.) However in the post-WWII era of more ex-military fields and governments expanding infrastructure the lack of runways was solved. Helicopters and seaplanes still need a home base for maintenance - but the idea of being able to avoid the usual scheduling and fees of working with normal transit hubs may have some margin for success.
Osprey Nation!
I remember flying on a giant Sikorsky S-61 from San Francisco International to Oakland International. It only lasted a few minutes but it was fun.
Vtols like the one you see in the video will take 20 more years before they start to use them for commercial maybe. uber and others current plan is to build EV self flying small 4 people Vtols to use for city only where they would get assigned air space. most likely to see something start flying by 2030, depends on governments and how testing goes
Why is the voice made by the HAI guy ?
Le Bourget is always active as a private airport
Yeah I'm good, got my Harriet sitting in my opening-roof garage. I live in the Arctic though, so had to get an electric engine heater installed. A big thank you to Defa.
I'd be surprised to see an Osprey-type plane be any more successful than a helicopter for this kind of short-haul service. They're even more complicated (read: more expensive and more dangerous), and their straight-line speed isn't going to be a huge factor in this kind of short jaunt; the whole point is that they're removing the long travel time to/from the airport, not going 400mph. If helicopter services can't cut it, I doubt that tilt-rotors are going to solve those problems.
They needed a Catalina wine mixer
>the future is tilt-rotor aircraft *shows Osprey* Not with that safety record
I legit thought this was HAI while watching, this guy sure sounds like sam.
I used to work for a company who's owner was a racing fanatic. For the Indy 500, he would charter helicopters to take us and our customers from the Embassy Suites on the northern edge of Indy and take us directly to the infield. I felt like a rock star. We would land, a guy in a suit would open the door and I would step out, hundreds of people packed along the fence to see if anyone important would step out. Plus, just to watch a helo land. Have some shrimp cocktail at our suite, watch a few laps of the race, have a martini then board "my" helo to take me out. Ah...those were the day. All gone now.
I have never thought about a helicopter for transportation it's always been a luxury ride experience for touring.
Maybe the solution is called CRH, or Shinkansen, or ICE. Or even Transrapid or Liner Motor.
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Deffo same
Isn't the main issue with tilt rotor craft their shit safety record? I guess that's why they're still in R&D.
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I'm in my garage right now literally building an ultralight helicopter, I'm working on its engine mounts and rotor axles. The future of helicopters is small 14 ft long personal helicopters but I feel that's a still a long time away especially with the learning curve of flying it which is a problem for myself, I have no idea how I'm going to test it without knowing how to fly but that bridge will be crossed when I get to it
Kobe
Bristow does just fine
What would be a cool business idea is for people trying to get to the Hamptons or Nantucket but werent worried about time constraints. I would offer them a ferry on an authentic sailboat. I would offer them snacks and Champaign while me and my salty crew get them to the Hamptons in a blistering 5 hours, or to Nantucket in a sweltering 14 hours.
I would love to commute in a Helicopter. Anything to avoid State Route-99
No, actually Macau and HK. have a massive bridge that connects them. So there's helicopter, ferry or bridge.
Great simple explanation. It is highly useful to me, and I will link to it in my business plan.
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You really don't need 13 minutes of video to explain why helicopers won't make it into the passenger airline industry - I can tell you that, even before the very first take-off: Price and noise - then add the slow speed and short range - and then add the none existing comport, missing lavatory and total lack of onboard service. I can tell you why helicoper airlines will fail in 10 seconds...
It won't have a future because the tree huggers complain about noise... :-) Sad but true!
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I used to do travel reimbursements at UC Berkeley. $75 in today's equivalent from Berkeley to SFO is totally reasonable. Ubers range between $50 and $100 for that journey, depending on traffic. Taxis are about $100-$125.
As a helicopter flight instructor, at 6:15 I WISH we were worth hundreds of dollars an hour, but that is simply not the case.
making your trains not shit with a gov owned railway would be a green and mass marketable solution. but that seems to be impossible to imagine in the US
2:27 I always thought that many airlines use airports that are a 1 hours trip away from their city centre, simply because the airline wants to use whatever airport has the cheapest landing fees. For example, Ryanair landing over 120km away from Barcelona when everyone else can manage to land at another airport only 12km away
If going from airport to airport, like from Hong Kong to Macau, a small plane like a Cessna StationAir should be able to do the job much more efficiently than a helicopter. Blast off on the small GA runway, climb up to 1500 feet and cruise at 200 knots carrying 4 passengers. A Bonanza or a Piper M-Class could do the job as well.
Here is another example... helity.es/index.php Had a great experience few years ago.
What I learned is that these helicopter airlines make deals with companies who need transportation to offshore sites like an oiling rig or remote destinations. It's a pretty small market but it's there regardless.
Guys around the world: *travel for 1 hour to get to the airport.* Me: *Takes 15 minutes to get to Dubai International.* STRONKS
RIP Kobe
This could work, if the helicopter pilots don't have their "greatest plans".
What is this, an American that actually pronounced Melbourne correctly? Get him on the protected species list!
LGA is near the center of NYC? Sure if you’re a bird. If you’re in a subway bus or car it’s a waaayyys 😝
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10:20 Vertical take-off and landing aircrafts for passanger use will most likely not be as big as the military kind. Companies like Lilium or Airbus, etc. have concepts in the testing stage which involve new battery as well as propulsion technologies. Less noise and less costs.
Luton airport 🤔
Short answer: too expensive
Helicopter Airlines? We've got that in OpenTTD. Only got two types of choppers though.
In Vancouver we have regular seaplane flights and helicopter flights between the mainland and Vancouver Island and other places. And the seaplanes are going to be converted to electric, so that's cool.
Choppers are still high maintenance, relatively low capacity, and downright dangerous.
*What about Trump's wonderful *Trump Shuttle?* Helis to Atlantic City the Hamptons and LaGuardia Airport? Another hugely successful, wonderful, great, incredible idea. Wonderful, Wonderful idea. That lasted less than 3 years before going bankrupt (his specialty: Chapter 11).
What they didn't factor in was no one wants to go to Baltimore fast.
British Columbia has both a helicopter airline and a float plane airline from downtown Vancouver, the most populous city, and downtown Victoria, the capital city, which is on a large island. Because Victoria is on Vancouver Island, alternatives are driving or bussing to and from a 90 minute ferry ride. Also, as the city airports are outside the cities, a Vancouver to Victoria flight on a regular commercial airline has the logistical challenge of getting to and from the outside-the-city airports. Between the island location and the airports outside of downtown, it's easy to see that float plane and helicopter travel saves a lot of time and some inconvenience (for instance, public busses to and from the ferries may take an hour and be crowded, with standing room only) for people. I've booked Harbour Air flights and helicopter service for people I worked for who needed to get to a government meeting or conference. The float plane tickets are less expensive than the helicopter ones, as capacity is higher on the float planes, though there is a slight time advantage to the helicopter flights. Departure and arrival areas for both are within a few blocks of each other -- and the respective downtown -- in both cities.
Wow, you really put a lot of effort into this comment! That's a like from me
Helicopters are now more fuel efficient, and less costly for maintenance (rotors and engines having longer lifespans, less moving parts, ...). That might help.
Can't wait for Civilian version of V-22 Osprey and SB-1 Defiant.
In Moscow, there was also a first airport inside the city. But it was too small and to close to houses, so Moscow builded couple of bigger airports outside the city, and the territory was developed and builded with houses and shops. But there are still "Airport" metro station, where are no airport now.
development of tiltrotor aircraft has almost stoped, its not the future. The future is in compound helicopters.
in my city we have a helicopter that carries passengers from vancouver to victoria BC every 4 hours
Wasn’t The Rotordyne a vtol passenger helicopter/plane? Sadly it failed
From my experience those who have money to pay for flying with a helicopter on a somewhat regular basis buy their own helicopter. Then they find out the expenses of overhauled components and they sell it shortly after they buy it.
They should call it Ubair 🤔
Because helicopters are stupid
What about Monaco it has a helicopter airline
There is a regular Helicopter line that flies from Ceuta to Malaga and Algeciras, Helity.
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Music is exceptional this time, really noticeable!
F to climate
As far as I know, helicopter airlines are a thing in Russia.
I’m sorry but the airport of “le Bourget” near Paris is everything but closed !
Hm
You sound like the guy from Half as Interesting
Bring back the Rotodyne!
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I found this video from that video you mentioned.
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There has been a bridge between Hong Kong and Macau via HKG.
"interurban air travel" Not a good choice of words, an interurban is an electric railroad.
Error in the video : Le bourget airport didn't closed. It's still used today for civilian and military use everyday
You have forgotten about Pawanhans India Limited
well I think they did succeed because look at Kobe
laughs in asia with our intricate bullet train networks
There is a service in Bangalore to travel from the city's tech hub to the airport, a trip that normally takes an hour and half, in 15 minutes.
Thank you for the video! I have some insights on a few points, please let me know if you're interested in hearing them.
loud , small , slow, uncomfortable. thats probably it
this is the HAI guy.
in the 60's people thought that somewhere around the 1990's everybody would have a private helicopter.
I've heard this narrator on another channel, but don't recall which.
baltimore!
Oh wow, let's see how that first year went x3
I demand intercity Ekranoplan service.
NYC to London takes 7 hours are you sure?